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How many chao are there?

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So how many chao are there really? With every combo of color, type, and even animal parts and hats...
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Well everything needs to be pointed out clearly to figure this out.

If there is the Baby Form, Five First Evolutions, Twenty-Five Second Evolutions, Twenty Mixed Second Evolutions, and the Chaos Form that makes Fifty-Two Types. Then factoring in the fact that there are Three Alignments (Neutral, Hero, and Dark) that takes the number up to 156. Next add the Character Chao and that makes 159 forms Chao can take at different time in their life.

Then comes breeds. If there are Fourteen Colors (White, Grey, Black, Pink, Red, Orange, Yellow, Lime Green, Green, Sky Blue, Blue, Purple, Brown, and Normal), Two Tones (Mono-Tone and Two-Tone), Twelve Jewel Coats (Lack of Coat, Silver, Gold, Ruby, Sapphire, Amethyst, Emerald, Garnet, Aquamarine, Peridot, Topaz, and Onyx), and Two Options for Shininess (Non-Shiny and Shiny) that means there are 673 Genotypical Breeds, but since many of them look the same, there are only Seventy-Seven Phenotypical Breeds.

This results in 12,012 kinds of Chao based on Body and Skin.

As for headgear, there is the Twenty-Seven Eggshells (Thirteen Colors, Thirteen Shiny Color, and Normal), the Two Garden Headgear (Pumpkin and Skull), and the Twelve Black Market Headgear (Apple, Box, Pan, Can, Bag, Tree, Bucket, Pot, Watermelon, and Three Wool Hats) there are Forty-One Headgear Options.

Now the total is 492,492 kinds of Chao based on Body, Skin, and Headgear.

I don't have specific numbers on animal parts and medals so this is as far as I can go. If someone can help make a list of each option for each body part that would help finish this list up.

EDIT:

Thanks to Fusion I have a list of animal parts for Sonic Adventure.

With Twelve Arms, Eight Ears, Fourteen Feet, Five Forehead Decals, One Horns Option, Fourteen Tails, and Three Wings and adding one to each group for a lack there of a body part gives us 1,263,600 possible animal part combinations.

So on Sonic Adventure Deluxe we have 622,312,891,200 kinds of Chao based on Body, Skin, Headgear, and Animal Parts.
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I forgot about faces.

We need Faces, SADX Medals, SA2B Animal Parts, and SA2B Medals.

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And Faces need to be determined around Forms because Chaos Chao can't have faces and I don't remember if Character Chao can or not, but they probably can't either. And different types have different eyes.
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Wow every single person on Earth could have different chao. That's a lot of combonation.
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What if there are over 6 billion combinations of chao? 0_0
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^What about it? The programmers obviously put a bit of work into this, making it all possible without glitching.

Oh, and don't forget each different color in between evolution~
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If there were more than 6 billion chao then there could be almost as many if not more combinations of chao than there are people on Earth.
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Chao are awesome.
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Yes they are.

You know, I think I know why they stopped making games with Chao Gardens. It would take a lot of work to program all those possible Chao into the game!

Anyway, I wonder what the total amount of Chao combinations will be once Crazo includes the things he didn't yet.
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My guess is 622,312,891,200 x 25 faces so a lot.
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Well it's definatly OVER 9000 alright...
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What 9000?
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Saz wrote:My guess is 622,312,891,200 x 25 faces so a lot.
You can't calculate faces like that.

Calculating faces would require starting back at the Forms group and adding faces based on forms that can have those faces. All Chaos Chao and Character Chao have the same face, Dark Chao always have Angry Eyes, and Hero Chao have "Reverse Eyes", so it would be more difficult to calculate faces.

The following are what I consider valid eyes and mouths:
-Eyes: Default, Tired, Evil, and Happy
-Mouths: Default, Happy, Sad, and Toothy

I will start again with the Body total of 159. Now I split them into groups: Six One Face (Chaos and Character), Fifty Angry Faces (Dark), and 103 Any Faces (Baby, Neutral, and Hero). The Angry Faces can have four different mouths, creating 200 options. The any faces can have any of four eyes and four mouths, creating 1,648 options. There is a new mixed total of 1854 kinds of Chao based on Body and Face.

Now we add Skin and Headgear. Making a total of 5,853,078 kinds of Chao based on Body, Skin, Headgear, and Faces.

If you want to include Sonic Adventure's Animal Parts we are at 7,3959,493,608,000. This is, of course, suggesting my math is perfect on this.
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So 1500 for every person on earth approx? WOW
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I will take a guess and say that you can make like 3 million different chao u can make... :hero: :dark: :chao:
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^ more like 7 trillion did you even read crazo's final post?
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Thats just freaky...
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Saz wrote:^ more like 7 trillion did you even read crazo's final post?
No, it's more than that, Crazo misplaced a ",".
Crazo3077 wrote:7,3959,493,608,000
What I put in bold needs to be switched. It's really supposed to be 73,959,493,608,000!
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@crazo
...are you counting duo-tone, invisible, mint, ect. as well???
NVM! i missed that part on your first post. But i noticed to didn't include jewel egg shells :chaocry:
i was thinking around 10 million when i first thought of this...but 7 trillion! may i ask how much money there is? it would be cool if chao #'s topped money amount XD
And again correcting myself...i researched how much money and found it tops chao by alot...of all the money in US economy alone is approx: 25 trillion and if you figure the rest of the world such as china...chao doest stand a chance ;(
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Thank you for pointing that out, Echo2VX.

To make a few corrections:

There are 159 Body Types.

There are 1854 Forms a Chao can take based on Body and Face. (I do not accept the squiggly mouth as an obtainable permanent mouth.)

There are 52 Headgear Options. (I added the 11 Jewel Eggshells)

To determine the total to include headgear one needs to take the Body total, multiply it by the Headgear Options, then add the Body and Face total. This creates a total of 10122 Forms of Chao using Body, Face, and Headgear.

There are 77 Skin Colors.

There is a total of 779,394 Forms of Chao using Body, Face, Headgear, and Skin.

Then if we include the Sonic Adventure Animal Parts there is a total of 984,842,258,400 Kinds of Chao based on Body, Faces, Headgear, Skin, and Animal Parts.

This should be more accurate.
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Its funny how you can only put only 24 chao in the game yet there are 7 trillion different chao...
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Crazo3077 wrote:(I do not accept the squiggly mouth as an obtainable permanent mouth.)
Why don't you accept it?
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